KDE/Plasma for Debian – Update 2022/7

(Update 2022-07-14: Plasma 5.25 now also available for Debian/stable)

Long time I haven’t posted a lot about KDE/Plasma for Debian, most people will know the reason. But I have anyway updated my repos at OBS, which now contain the latest releases of frameworks, gears, and plasma!

The status is as follows (all for Debian/stable, testing, unstable:

  • Frameworks: 5.96
  • Gears: 22.04.3
  • Plasma 5.25: 5.25.3
  • Plasma 5.24 LTS: 5.24.6

Unfortunately, compiling Plasma 5.25 didn’t work out due to dependencies on newer versions of Xorg and related libraries.

I repeat (and update) instructions for all here: First of all, you need to add my OBS key say in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc and add a file /etc/apt/sources.lists.d/obs-npreining-kde.list, containing the following lines, replacing the DISTRIBUTION part with one of Debian_11 (for Bullseye), Debian_Testing, or Debian_Unstable:

deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/DISTRIBUTION/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/DISTRIBUTION/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma525/DISTRIBUTION/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2204/DISTRIBUTION/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/DISTRIBUTION/ ./

Some programs in the other group have been recompiled against the Gears 22.04 libraries.

Enjoy!

Usual disclaimer: (1) Considering that I don’t have a user-facing Debian computer anymore, all these packages are only tested by third parties and not by myself. Be aware! (2) Funny to read the Debian Social Contract, Point 4. Our priorities are our users and free software, obviously I care a lot about my users, more than some other Debian members.

64 Responses

  1. Kalvin Dan says:

    Hi there! Thanks again for releasing Plasma 5.25. I’m still getting a gpg error even after re-importing the key from your repository. I already tried the updated key from your previous post. Has the key been updated yet as of today? Thanks again!

    • The key was updated beginning of June. If you run gpg obs-npreining.asc you should see

       
      gpg: WARNING: no command supplied.  Trying to guess what you mean ...
      pub   rsa2048/0xB8AC39B0876D807E 2020-03-27 [SC] [expires: 2024-08-13]
            Key fingerprint = 63CE 457B 3C26 9D01 1BCD  74AB B8AC 39B0 876D 807E
      uid                             home:npreining OBS Project 
      

      If that is the same as you have, then you might have a different copy hanging around somewhere else. Can you check all the other keys, please

  2. Jose A says:

    Thank you so much for all your work and effort. We stay with you!

  3. Shmerl says:

    For some reason libkf5identitymanagementwidgets5 is marked as not needed anymore (so autoremove removes it), but kmail still depends on it. So far I marked it as manual to keep it, but it seems incorrect.

  4. Shaun O says:

    Hi Norbert,

    Thank you so much for your hard work on Plasma – it is very much appreciated.

    I have updated my repo’s tonight from Plasma 5.24 (installed from official repo’s for Debian Testing), and attempted an update. Apt is wanting to remove quite a large amount of software, including critical system components (Dolphin, breeze, plasma-desktop, plasma-framework are a couple of examples), and some other important applications I have installed (Systemback, VLC, among others).

    Needless to say, I was rather reluctant to proceed. Just wanted to let you know.

    • Hard to debug from here. I just tried it on a Debian/sid system and it worked without problems.
      Maybe you haven’t updated the apps apt-sources line to 2204?

      • Shaun O says:

        Thanks for that – I found the problem, seems to be on my end, sorry for your trouble.

        I tried again just now, and successfully upgraded to 5.25. The problem seems to be with Mesa, and I think I’ve opened a can of worms.

        I run a game under Wine through Lutris, called Future Pinball. It relies on Mesa drivers, but for some reason it doesn’t run correctly on the current version of Mesa (22.0.5). It only works properly on an older version (20.3.5). Therefore, I had that version of Mesa installed on Testing, and it seems that was causing the bug preventing upgrading Plasma.

        Upgraded Mesa, and that fixed Plasma. Likely though, Future Pinball will stop working, so gotta try to figure out what I can do about that…

        Thank you again!

  5. Markus says:

    Thank you very much 🙂

  6. Nabil Danial says:

    Hi Norbert, thanks for all the updates, keep em coming! But it seems like some of the packages are expecting to use the older 5.24.5 ones instead of 5.24.6 in the latest updates. Partial upgrade issue? I use the stable repo. I’ll refrain from updating for now, but thanks again!

    https://pastebin.com/raw/zpgzs5k5

  7. Werner Joss says:

    Hm,
    I just made the update, but now kmail does not start anymore.
    I get this:
    kmail: error while loading shared libraries: libKF5IdentityManagementWidgets.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

  8. Birk says:

    Dear Norbert,
    I came home today after some days and there were the Frameworks 5.96, the Gears 22.04.3 and the Plasma 5.24.6 updates for Debian 11 (Bullseye/stable).
    The updates worked flawlessly and I have had no problems at all so far.
    Thank you again for your great work!

  9. Rania Amina says:

    Thanks a lot, installing now :”)

  10. dpanter says:

    Thanks for another flawless update, 5.25 running smoothly on Siduction here.

  11. Ostrich says:

    Hello Norbert,

    thank you very much for your KDE releases. I always look forward to those and they work very for me!

    This time plasma525/Debian_11 appears to be missing however.

    Best Regards

  12. m4gr4th34 says:

    Thanks it updated just fine. 5.25 working mostly smooth on testing. sadly latte doesn’t show multiple instances of terminal, in case anyone was wondering if there were obvious bugs in 5.25. hopefully someone will catch it and fix in update soon. thanks norbert, everything works well!

    • m4gr4th34 says:

      I’ve been getting this error consistently of late:

      Fatal error: Error while installing package: trying to overwrite ‘/usr/share/config.kcfg/cantor_libs.kcfg’, which is also in package libcantorlibs28

  13. Soelv Raeven says:

    Hi Mr. Preining,
    Thank you again for your work. Very much appreciated 🙂
    Cheers

  14. José Reis says:

    Trying to update Debian stable…

    sudo apt install plasma-desktop
    Reading package lists… Done
    Building dependency tree… Done
    Reading status information… Ready
    Some packages could not be installed. This could mean that
    you requested an impossible situation or, if you are using the
    unstable distribution, that some required packages were not
    created yet or were withdrawn from “Incoming”.
    The following information may help resolve the situation:

    The following packages have mismatched dependencies:
    polkit-kde-agent-1 : Depends: polkitd but not installable
    E: Unable to fix problems, you kept (hold) broken packages.

  15. Luc says:

    good day Norbert, I was able to upgrade today, still need to check several things. I needed to install many ..dbgsym… packages in order to let apt install the matching code. I simply do not know how I could have done this otherwise.

    Thanks a LOT !!!

    Besturingssysteem: Debian GNU/Linux
    KDE Plasma-versie: 5.25.3
    Versie van KDE-Frameworks: 5.96.0
    Qt-versie: 5.15.4
    Kernel-versie: 5.19.0-rc6-amd64 (64-bits)
    Grafisch platform: X11
    Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz
    Geheugen: 7,2 GiB RAM
    Grafische processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4400
    Fabrikant: Hewlett-Packard
    Productnaam: HP ProBook 430 G1
    Systeemversie: A3009CD20303

  16. Luc says:

    After I installed also “aptitude install plasma-nm-dbgsym -t sid” also plasma-nm was installed and the installating is working well.

    Thanks a lot!!!

  17. Emiliano Z says:

    Thank you, your efforts and altruism are much appreciated
    been using your Plasma releases on Siduction
    upgrade to 5.25 went smoothly
    kind regards

  18. Thomas Florek says:

    @Luc,
    in our sid(uction) distribution we are used to
    # apt full-upgrade -V
    to install/upgrade all new packages (successful) in one go.
    Good luck,
    Thomas

    • Luc says:

      thx a lot, i will try it

    • Luc says:

      Hi Thomas, unfortunately the command pulled in more packages. I installed the new Plasma on another machine and had to do the same: install …dbgsym… packages in order to install the wanted binary. After installation I removed the ..dbgsym… packages of course. Strange behaviour of apt, even on 2 different PCś. The end result is that all is working and that is what counts!

  19. lmarcini says:

    Good job! Works perfectly on my Bullseye! Thank you very much!!!

  20. Shmerl says:

    Looks like some package conflict:

    dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-xbXpEV/018-kmailtransport-akonadi_22.04.3-1_amd64.deb (–unpack):
    trying to overwrite ‘/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/mailtransport/mailtransport_smtpplugin.so’, which is also in package libkf5mailtransport5:amd64 22.04.3-1~np1

    It’s fixable with sudo apt –fix-broken install, but still looks incorrect.

  21. Aldek says:

    Hi, and thanks for all!
    For unknowns reasons, the gpg signature don’t work on my system until i modified the obs-npreining-kde.list like this (adding [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] for each repos…) :

    deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_11/ ./
    deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_11/ ./
    deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma524/Debian_11/ ./
    deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2204/Debian_11/ ./
    deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_11/ ./

    I’am on LinuxMX21_KDE. Perhaps there is a better way to do this…

  22. m4gr4th34 says:

    I have packages that are unable to install. even as su when i run pkcon update, i get the following error:
    Fatal error: Error while installing package: trying to overwrite ‘/usr/share/config.kcfg/cantor_libs.kcfg’, which is also in package libcantorlibs28 4

    Anything I can do to fix? rebooting hasn’t helped. Thanks in advance!

    • m4gr4th34 says:

      In case anyone else runs into this problem, this is how I solved it:

      sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::=”–force-overwrite” –fix-broken install

  23. Luc says:

    As I encountered it I include below typical install scenario – the one with the dbgsym – below. It includes the workaround. My issue: to build “latte-dock” https://github.com/KDE/latte-dock I need to install several -dev packages, before I could install those, with this upgrade not all.

    root@wolder:~# aptitude install qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils -t sid
    qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils is reeds geïnstalleerd met de gevraagde versie (5.94.0-2)
    qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils is reeds geïnstalleerd met de gevraagde versie (5.94.0-2)
    Er zullen geen pakketten geïnstalleerd, opgewaardeerd of verwijderd worden.
    0 pakketten opwaarderen, 0 nieuwe installeren, 0 verwijderen en 114 niet opwaarderen.
    Heb 0 B archieven nodig. Na uitpakken zal 0 B worden gebruikt.

    root@wolder:~# aptitude install qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym -t sid
    De volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen worden geïnstalleerd:
    qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym{b}
    0 pakketten opwaarderen, 1 nieuwe installeren, 0 verwijderen en 114 niet opwaarderen.
    Heb 395 kB archieven nodig. Na uitpakken zal 417 kB worden gebruikt.
    De volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:
    qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym : Vereisten: qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils (= 5.96.0-1~np2) maar 5.94.0-2 is geïnstalleerd
    De volgende acties zullen deze vereisten oplossen:

    Behoud de volgende pakketten op hun huidige versie:
    1) qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym [Niet geïnstalleerd]

    Deze oplossing aanvaarden? [Y/n/q/?]n
    De volgende acties zullen deze vereisten oplossen:

    Doe opwaardering van volgende pakketten:
    1) qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils [5.94.0-2 (now, testing, unstable) -> 5.96.0-1~np2 (

    Deze oplossing aanvaarden? [Y/n/q/?]Y
    De volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen worden geïnstalleerd:
    qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym
    De volgende pakketten zullen worden opgewaardeerd:
    qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils
    1 pakketten opwaarderen, 1 nieuwe installeren, 0 verwijderen en 114 niet opwaarderen.
    Heb 414 kB archieven nodig. Na uitpakken zal 418 kB worden gebruikt.
    Wilt u verdergaan? [Y/n/?] Y
    Haal: 1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils 5.96.0-1~np2 [19,1 kB]
    Haal: 2 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym 5.96.0-1~np2 [395 kB]
    414 kB opgehaald in 1s (492 kB/s)
    De changelogs worden ingelezen… Klaar
    (Database wordt ingelezen … 368711 bestanden en mappen momenteel geïnstalleerd.)
    Uitpakken van …/qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils_5.96.0-1~np2_amd64.deb wordt voorbereid…
    Bezig met uitpakken van qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils:amd64 (5.96.0-1~np2) over (5.94.0-2) …
    Voorheen niet geselecteerd pakket qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym:amd64 wordt geselecteerd.
    Uitpakken van …/qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym_5.96.0-1~np2_amd64.deb wordt voorbereid…
    Bezig met uitpakken van qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym:amd64 (5.96.0-1~np2) …
    Instellen van qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils:amd64 (5.96.0-1~np2) …
    Instellen van qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils-dbgsym:amd64 (5.96.0-1~np2) …

    Huidige status: 114 (-1) opwaardeerbaar.
    root@wolder:~#

  24. sci says:

    First, I must recognize the invaluable contribution of Norbert Preining!

    Congratulations for you brilliant work! The open source community need more open-minded people like you.
    Before “discursive wars”, what you done here it is a practical example how this wonderful community yet have a lot more to learn for attract more and more people beyond who is already “converted”!

    Then, I would like to know if someone could help to install the KDE/Plasma upgrades this OBS repository.

    The summary of my problem is:

    1. I installed the Parrot OS Architect Edition without a Desktop.
    2. After reboot and I installed the KDE/Plasma with minimal install following the command:
    sudo apt -y install kde-plasma-desktop plasma-nm
    3. Reboot
    4. I followed the instructions above for the OBS repository.
    5. I tried, but none updates are available from:
    a. sudo apt update
    b. sudo apt full-upgrade -V (quoted above)
    c. sudo parrot-upgrade
    d. Then I tried check the “Force Version” from Synaptic app to version 4:5.25.3-1~np1 of plasma-nm, for exemple, but this didn’t take any effect.

    – Could someone tell too how install just the LTS version of KDE/Plasma from this OBS repository?
    – Can I use this repository and keep receiving the updates just for the LTS version until the next stable release?

    PS: Sorry for the double post, but I need try to fix the text formatting.

  25. sci says:

    Hi, Norbert Preining, thanks for your contribution!

    Now I know something about how add new repositories in a Debian distro. (before I just used PPAs in Ubuntu…)
    I found the information about how pinning here in your blog.

    After I did it, now “sudo apt upgrade” made the updates.

    Now I have a security/privacy friendly (with AnonSurf) Debian LTS distro (Parrot OS) that come already with the latest Kernel and the lastest KDE LTS (your exceptional work here). What I thought it was impossible, remaining just other options like Manjaro, etc. Or I come back to Ubuntu (KDE neon).

    And now I have too the answer about the updates from your KDE LTS (5.24), because I saw that it is updated and I just need choose the “plasma524” option in the repository list.

    Could you say something about:

    1. Could happen bad effects if I choose keep the LTS (plasma524) and the latest “apps2204”?
    Or the right way is it “plama524” together with “apps2112”?

    2. Is it correct my thought about keep the LTS if I want minimize the possibilities of problem when new updates are available?

  26. TT says:

    As a long time Debian user what are your experiences/thoughts on Arch compared to Debian?

    • I think Arch is very close to Debian/unstable without the long breakage of everything before and after release. One needs to know the way around the system. OTOH, packaging is soo much easier on Arch, so fixing up a problem is very straight-forward. Also, since packages are extremely close to the original authors’ intention (while Debian packages often carry loads of changes), it makes it easy to check with upstream.

      So all in all I would say that for someone with experience of Linux and managing one’s own computer, they are pretty close.

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