On Lars Wirzenius, Martín Ferrari, and Debian
Now that the tsunami that followed my recent blog post has passed, I can read through all the nice comments and blogs of other people. I didn’t expect that just writing up some links to posts on LKML, plus adding my personal opinion on what has happened and about my interpretation concerning Debian could gather so much attention. Anyway, let us look at the blog posts written in the aftermath.
In particular do I want to answer to two blogs: Lars Wirzenius’ blog and Martín Ferrari’s blog, both of which are excellent examples of insults. I also want to mention that although the previous two are bad examples, there are fortunately also those who are able to resist primitive insults, in particular Gunnar Wolf (direct link to the blog does not work), and Miriam Ruiz’ blog, which contradict my blog and propose a different view, without pulling the knife.
Let us start with Lars (ah sorry, I have to call him Wirzenius here, strange custom has suddenly popped up in Debian!):
I think Preining mis-characterises what happens on the Linux kernel mailing list, and in Debian, in free software development in general, and what Sarah Sharp has said and done. … I continue to think he is wrong about everything on this topic.
I am very surprised that Lars^WWirzenius is in possession of a crystal ball that allows him to see and evaluate my attitude towards all these items, considering that I have presented links to posts on the LKML, and yes, my interpretation of the matter. Mind that the whole text amounts to about 130 lines on my screen, while my personal opinion was stated in two paragraphs of total 9 lines plus some interspersed comments. And in these maybe 20 lines I didn’t make general statements about open source, kernel development etc etc.
Lars, I know you have closed your blog for comments so I couldn’t ask you – but please, can you send me one of your crystal balls if you have more of them?
At least he has managed to keep a bit of proper writing and disagreed with my statement on Debian (whether there is fun or not in Debian). He is of course free to do that, but please, don’t rob me the right to state that I think Debian has changed.
All this dispute centers around people not being capable to distinguish two things: One, being against the Code of Conduct due to the inclusion of administrative actions without clear definitions, and Two, being pro offensive behavior and and insults. Now, dear Lars^WWirzenius, please listen: I never advocated abusive behavior or insults, nor do I defend it. (Did you hear that!) I simply opposed the Code of Conduct as ruling instrument. And what kind of emails I got due to my opposition was far outside the Code of Conduct you are so strongly defending.
So please, stay at the facts, and stop insulting me. Thanks.
Concerning Martín I don’t have much to say but please, stop spreading lies. You stated:
Once again, he’s complaining about how the fun from Debian has been lost because making sexist jokes, or treating other people like shit is not allowed any more.
Could you please come up with a reference to this? Or are you just interpreting?
I am very disappointed about this level of discussion between Debian Developers. You not even cared to answer my comment on your blog. Should I say something clear here – you should be happy that this has not been written on a Debian mailing list, otherwise I hope the Code of Conduct hammer would hit you.
So yes, it seems that at least these two blogs underline exactly what my opinion is: Communication culture in Debian has changed to be more company-like. Probably due to the ever increasing amount of developers that are paid for their work on Debian (Ubuntu), the pressure to follow US company codes has taken a firm grip, so firm that even stating my diverging opinion is already enough to get branded. Good Future!